SB
on Game of Thrones: Blog Entry Number
Six
Mythological
World
This week’s set of
episodes (2.7, 2.8, 2.9, and 2.10) not only demonstrated the importance of
storytelling within the Game of Thrones universe, but also
communicated that it is important for
viewers to understand the Game of Thrones
universe as a mythological world.
For example, consider the scene in episode 2.9 when Cersei attempted to
poison Tommen while telling a story about “a bear and her cub.” Even though this interaction was interrupted (with
the news of the outcome of the invasion) before Tommen could drink the poison,
this was a crucial scene in the second season of Game of Thrones that made a clear reference to folk legends.
I believe that this scene
communicated that storytelling is of high value in the Game of Thrones universe
(for purposes of escapism, deception, and more). Further, the fact that this crucial scene was
actually its own version of the “bear
and her cub” folk legend added an additional layer of presentation, and served
as a reminder to viewers that it is important to understand the Game of Thrones universe as a world of
mythology.
As
mentioned in my previous blogs and comments, rather than trying to place Game of Thrones within a specific
geographical or historical context, I have a better understanding of the Game of Thrones universe when I accept
its ambiguity and perceive it as an entirely fictional world. Like how Peter Berresford Ellis described the world
of Celtic mythology, I understand the setting of Game of Thrones as a universe on a plane of existence that transcends
time and space.
Yes, I believe there is
great value in identifying the actual historical/political events and
geographical places that inspired George R. R. Martin’s Game of Thrones universe because this can increase the public’s
interest in world history, political science, science, art, and other
fields. I am happy to learn that this
show has led many viewers to new interests in subjects like this. I am only claiming that the specific content of the show (like specific
characters, events, and places) is best understood as mythology (rather than
history) because many characters (and places) in the show tend to embody a wide
variety of ideas (from history, philosophy, mythology, and more), rather than
specific singular figures (and locations).
Even though Game of Thrones is quite progressive, this
show is keeping the traditions of mythology alive and can be understood as the
modern mythology of our time. Just like
how W. B. Yeats described the function of Irish fairy and folk tales, Game of Thrones utilizes fantasy
elements to communicate lessons about life and to encourage philosophical contemplation. Further, like T. A. Leederman’s description
of the commonalities between warging, greenseeing, and reading, Game of Thrones allows viewers to
transcend time and space not for the purposes of changing events, but for the
purposes of learning, understanding new perspectives, and building character.
Even though the article
“The Moral Luck of Tyrion Lannister” by Christopher Robichaud was read with
last week’s set of episodes (2.4, 2.5, and 2.6), this article contained analyses
of a few scenes that were in this week’s set of episodes. For example, recall the scene in the ninth
episode of the second season where the invading ships were set on fire. In sum, Robichaud held that these scenes were
demonstrations of the idea that the outcomes of human actions may rely on luck,
and claimed that if morality depends on luck, then people aren’t completely
responsible for their actions.
Like Kant, I’d like to
believe that some morally
praiseworthy and blameworthy actions might be within our control (Robichaud). For instance, in the tenth episode of the
second season, Tyrion had the opportunity to leave with Shae and live a
peaceful life. However, Tyrion chose to
stay, in order to deal with the problems.
It might have been in Tyrion’s self-interest to go and live a peaceful
life. I probably would have decided to
leave, if I were in Tyrion’s shoes. However,
Tyrion decided to stay and this was a morally praiseworthy action. Also, I am glad Tyrion did not leave because
Tyrion is still a favorite character and I want him to remain in the show for
as long as possible.
Works
Cited
Ellis, Peter
Berresford. Celtic Myths and Legends. Philadelphia, PA: Running Press Book Publishers, 2002. Print.
Leederman, T. A.
“A Thousand Westerosi Plateaus: Wargs,
Wolves, and Ways of Being.” Mastering
the Game of Thrones: Essays on George R.R. Martin’s A Song of Ice and Fire.
Eds. Jes Battis and Susan Johnston.
Jefferson, NC: McFarland, 2015. 189-203. Print.
Robichaud,
Christopher. “The Moral Luck of Tyrion Lannister.” Game of Thrones and Philosophy: Logic Cuts Deeper Than Swords. Eds. William Irwin and Henry Jacoby. Hoboken, NJ: Wiley & Sons, Inc., 2012.
183-193. Print.
Yeats, W. B. Irish Fairy and Folk Tales. New York,
NY: Barnes & Noble, Inc., 1993. Print.
I haven't looked into that article yet - so some answers might be found there, but: What do we see as Tyrion's reasoning for his staying to take part in the game? And depending on his reasoning, does that affect the morality of his decision? Is the action what is valued as moral or immoral...or is it the intention behind the action? Or is it a combination of both?
ReplyDeleteAnd depending on the answer, I think Danaerys could be an interesting subject to analyze in regards to moral actions. Especially when one considers her transferred loyalty from her unborn child to the three dragons that were born when she walked into the funeral pyre.
Kaelme, in this instance, I believe we ought to be concerned with Tyrion's decision. The question that you asked (should we be concerned with actions or intentions?) is a rephrasing of the problem of moral luck.
ReplyDeleteKant tried to solve this problem by introducing the "good will" and claiming that moral judgments should be based on one's intentions or will. As mentioned in class, this only solves the problem of resultant luck (and not constitutive luck, etc.).
I am not able to provide a definitive final answer to this philosophical problem or any other philosophical problem that I discuss on my blog. I just find entertainment in addressing these questions and investigating these mysteries of human nature.
Your points about mythology seem confusing to me. If there is an antecedent myth about "The Bear and her Cub," how does that in any way affect our understanding/enjoyment of the episode? It's not a myth I know, am I missing something? Is this myth universal or rooted in George RR Martin's imagination, or specific to this tv show? When I watched the scene, I simply saw Cersei blubbering something in her son's ear as she was about to poison him to save him from torture or violent death. Does the myth in some way ennoble Cersei?
ReplyDeleteDr. Chown, to answer your questions, I would reply a lot like how Aimee replied. (Thanks, Aimee.) I saw the Cersei/Tommen interaction as (like Aimee said) a mother "attempting to protect her son from [potential future] horrors" (namely, this was a twisted version of the 'bear and her cub' story that Cersei was telling in this scene).
DeleteI am not sure of the origins of the 'bear and her cub' story, but (whether it was created by Martin or whether has its origins in world myth) this scene showed Cersei telling a folk tale to Tommen during a crucial scene.
I do not think this ennobled Cersei. All I wanted to communicate was that this crucial scene (where a character was almost killed and where the news of the outcome of the battle was delivered) made a direct reference to storytelling. This is just my opinion, but I thought this was self-reflexive.
Cersei’s attempt to poison Tommen is quite poetic, yet very disturbing. As she indicates herself, Cersei only loves her children. She is attempting to protect her son from the horrors that would inevitably come for them if Stannis won at the Battle of Blackwater. Your thoughts on this storytelling as escapism is well founded. I agree that looking at this show as mythology rather than a depiction of history is very important.
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ReplyDeleteSamwell, it was really interesting to read the blog section about luck. I do too find it that it was very lucky for Bronn's shot to land perfectly in the water and cause it to set fire to all of the ships. I also agree with your statement about Tyrion. I would have left too out of concern for my safety, and I hope that this decision doesn't end up being a bad move in the long run.
ReplyDeleteIf I'm Tyrion I would've been gone without hesitation, so I agree with you there. I just think he still has more to prove, or at least feels like he does. Just another instance where we see his honor and conscience coming into play. Shae doesn't like it very much, but it feels like to me that Tyrion is done listening to other people and tends to make up his mind and stick to it.
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